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Poor Charlotte (Cyber Bullying)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/charlotte-dawson-twitter-attack-sparks-call-for-changes-to-laws-against-cyber-bullying/story-e6frf7jo-1226461962215

You may have read about Charlotte Dawson and her stand against cyber bullying esp if you are from down under like I am.  Charlotte originally from New Zealand recently outed a cyber bully/troll who made unacceptable remarks regarding suicide and Charlotte called her out on it.   This encouraged the troll to tell Charlotte she should kill herself. Charlotte tracked the troll down to her place of work and confronted her, she also contacted her employer, resulting in the troll’s suspension from her place of employment.  Sadly this resulted in hundreds of nasty tweets aimed at Charlotte, from people who felt she shouldn’t have outed this low life.  It seems it was all too much for Charlotte and she was hospitalised yesterday.

Despite the fact that Charlotte was somewhat unpleasant about her Homeland, which also happens to be mine, I want to congratulate Charlotte.  This is subject very personal to me and dear to my heart because I have been the victim of cyber bullying myself, by a very malicious, devious and particularly vicious individual who was utterly relentless in her quest.  You can simply turn off your computer, however when you have a business that is perpetuated in some aspects by social media, it’s not quite so easy to do and frankly why the hell should you.  It was frightening and intimidating and I wish I’d had the courage Charlotte has demonstrated.   I know how this feels, it’s awful.  I wish Charlotte all the very best and I hope she has a speedy recovery.

This is and example of what can happen when bullys and trolls go to far, it’s a very real phenomenon and I for one will be extremely happy to see laws around this stuff and for these sorts individuals to be made accountable in real life for their actions on the internet.  There is one thing you can take comfort in and that’s this; cyber bully’s and trolls have far to much time on their hands, they are insecure cowards who really ought to get a life!

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ONE VOICE NEEDS YOU

I hate to admit it but I’ve been living under a rock it seems.  I was unaware of the recent situation of Gala Phoenix, one of SL’s original  skin artists. I’m still catching up.  If you are not aware please visit here and catch up as I have http://salomesays.com/blog/2012/06/the-curio-skin-scandal/

An amazing group of SL’rs have put together at very short notice The One Voice Fundraiser, which is to support  Gala Phoenix and raise money for the imminent court case, court cases of this kind run to 10’s of thousands of US dollars.  It is my understanding from what I’ve read that all of Gala’s content has been removed by the lab and she is suffering a loss of income due to this.

As a creator of original content for SL this is a hugely distressing situation, if Gala doesn’t win this court case, we are all at risk of this kind of frivolous misuse of the law.  For personal reasons I can relate to Gala’s situation, as I have had the misfortune to be in similar situation myself, although not to this extent. There are people who have a blatant disrespect for the DMCA process, there are people willing to commit perjury to prove a point or a personal vendetta and it’s a painful and bewildering situation to find yourself in.

I wish Gala Phoenix all the very best, my thoughts and the thoughts of many others are with her.

Below is the slurl to the fund raiser and a link if you prefer to donate direct.  By assisting with this awful situation we are all assisting ourselves and hopfully alleviating the risk so this doesn’t happen again.  Help protect the content creators you love, help protect their IP and be apart of this.

SLURL http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mesh/92/84/22

http://www.indiegogo.com/Curio


When Will It End

Recently Charlotte Barlett of Scarlet Creative made some very serious accusations on SL Universe forums, at this point I really don’t know if I can believe these things have happened to her or if she is making it up, either way she’s naming me, she has been threatening and harrassing me for years, enough is enough, today it stops!

A little background on the situation, Bartlett has harassed me relentlessly for years, I never fully understood why.  The catalyst I can pinpoint to an incident 2yrs ago over a texture I used and I just figured she was an obsessed insecure competitor, I have spoken about this in my blog previously, but I have never named her or her business. But this time she has pushed to me to my limit and beyond.

I’m tired of the slandering, tired of the cheap jabs, the cryptic threats, the direct threats via various forms of media. I have taken the high road every time, I have ignored her and refused to get into a humiliating public, bitch slapping fight, that would just be undignified.  The only thing I ever did wrong was snapshot a texture off a prefab I bought from Scarlet, at the time having no idea it was wrong but she hasn’t left me alone since.  I was not aware of Intellectual Property rights, I had never even heard of it. I thought second life was like real life, if I took a photo of something it was mine.

My design style is similar in genre to hers she clearly didn’t appreciate the competition and I think that’s what is really beneath all of this.  I don’t have a single clue about her RL identity, nor do I want to know.  I thought I could ignore her, I thought I could rest assured in my  own security and belief in who I am, I truly believed that her behavior over the years had said more about her than me. But this is too much.

Bartlett  and her cool kid friends had me utterly intimidated and terrified to log on to the grid for quite some time.  She intimidated me for a very long time, bullied, harassed and threatened me, I have every right to tell my side and it’s kind of therapeutic to write it all down.  After reading her SLU posts for the first time I was shocked, but now I’m just fed up and frustrated. If her version of events is true and someone has been doing this, then we are both victims in this, if it’s true she needs to look a little closer to home. But I can’t decide if she’s telling the truth, attention seeking or just nuts.  It’s probably worth noting that Barlett has been dropping hints on SLU since 2009, hints about police reports, hints about someone’s 5th  alt is about to be banned etc. etc., let it be noted I have NEVER been banned or spoken to by Linden Lab not ever.

Her Post:

Or read it directly from the forum here, she starts at post 64 and then really let loose at 75  http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/61224-screw-copy-botters-3.html

07-02-2011, 06:16 AM

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Charlotte Bartlett

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Business: Scarlet Creative

I wish it was about screwing too

Elysium

I am past hinting (think you can probably tell)- and have privately lived through most of it without the majority of people being aware bar a few other creators/friends in SL and RL. That’s why this thread response was heartfelt on my end for the opposite reason – sometimes the bad guys track you down instead.

If you want the short version – Shelly got caught copying (over and over and over) and then went on a RL spree to get my details and contact my employer, clients and me. She falsified information, chat logs etc and got horribly scary for a long time.

If you want a more detailed version here it is – and I am sure I have left about 80% of what she did out.

“Shelly” (who has had about 11 alts over the last 2/3 years) got her first batch of accounts closed out (after infringement – mostly works of mine) and decided my RL was game.

Fair enough – copying etc it happens, people don’t necessarily understand copyright / SL (she has always stated “it’s just a game and creators are too precious” etc.)

She had purchased something from me (which is how she first come to know of me). I explained to her (very nicely I might add!) the background to content / creators / licences etc and thought it was resolved. She said she understood it was not ok if used for commerical gain – she was using my work in her designs. (For her private use she was welcome to it – I learnt the best way to deal that is treat it as a compliment weirdly via SLU and will be always grateful to Tara and others who gave me guidance).

Fast track a few months and I find my work is being screenshot, replicated prim by prim and used without my permission and used for commercial gain. She would also replicate parts of my collection and then sell it for a fraction of mine. Happy to post screenshots of the inspects etc. The icing on the cake was her using my logo too.

Perhaps this time not so fair enough – she felt she was competing and all it achieved was make me be more inventive in my work, add more features etc. Did it hurt – yes but I hoped she would soon get fed up with me if I didn’t give her attention.

She continued to try and get a reaction with things from joning my RFL team through to creating yet another alt (4 at within a few months) to stand on my sim and study my work to making nasty comments about me on the flogs (including that a friend was going to use a sim replication tool to rip off a “well known female prefab maker” etc etc) – all little pokes that on their own that were silly – but over a long period of time led me to withdraw hugely from things to avoid conflict.

Eventually after I think I had the 2nd major release line copied I drew a line in the sand and filed under DMCA as it was clear I was becoming an easy target.

That’s when hell began. It gave her my RL name and address.

First she started to fake chat logs that various creators were contacting her about me and saying I had hacked her machine through to Stroker (I think she was reading my posts on SLU as this was during his copyright issues with LL) and I were conspiring against her. That another creator had “bugged” her office in SL it went on and on in SL new account after new account.

It was the weirdest thing she would want me to know it was her as the alt always had the same RL picture (of her) or something to give it away in her profile. No matter how many times I banned and muted – there she would be again within a few weeks.

She joined Twitter, Facebook, Plurk to track my RL details and set up fake accounts to friend or follow me. She found blogs I used, and quickly set up fake posting names or searches to get details on me. One blog had something like 13 things from her across 2 different accounts in a few hours (and she didn’t realise her IP address adds on that blog so the different screen names didn’t fool the moderator). Again all screenshot and witnessed \ by multiple people (many who didn’t have a clue what SL was) who witnessed it first hand.

She found my work and personal email addy and there was a slew of emails with my name in and SL chat logs with me in there basically saying racist, homophobic, threats you name it. (That was fun trying to explain what SL was to people who didn’t know and the background). Unfortunately she didn’t realise that during the time these “chat log” were done I was sick in RL and in hospital after surgery so had no access to the internet.

It’s SL – I come to make houses and furniture, I learn stuff there, I have good friends for nearly 5 years now. I am a lurker mostly here as I am shy but love reading SLU and taking part when I can. I try to do no harm and support my customers/friends well. I love SL for all it’s faults and stupidity.

I Just don’t love this individual whom stalked, threatened and made me feel very fearful and small for a very long time.

Again she can flame / play innocent all she wants – I have everything evidenced / screenshot and the police report to back it up.

Now I will go back to ignoring it ❤

My Rebuttal point by point

– Most importantly is this point because she didn’t think this lie through very carefully. You do not receive the real life name of the person who has filed the DMCA, you do not receive the second life name of the person who has filed against you, you do not even get a reason as to why they have filed. Charlotte Bartlett did file DMCA’s after her endless harassment failed to achieve her objectives, I figured she were trying to get my RL info, trying to make me leave, I never countered for that reason. As even if you counter file there is STILL no information provided to you about who has filed. I assume if it gets as far as court proceedings you have to be notified then.

As crazy as it seems believe me it’s true and that is why it is so easy for the DMCA process to be abused by people who fight dirty like charlotte Bartlett. DMCA’s are anonymous, when you  receive one you don’t know who or where it is from, it’s just an email from lab and it says “someone believes you violated their IP”.  I know it was her because every time she does it she can’t help herself, she has to brag about it on the SLU forums and rub it in my face. She also threw in an insult about my work half down the page. She also claimed my sales were low volume, how could she have information regarding my sales?

  • Privately lived through this really!!! She told anyone who would listen, contacted people who wrote reviews on my products, contacted people who made comments on my flickr.  She  sure as hell was not living through any private hell, she contacted owners of groups I was in and told them I was copybotter to get me booted out.  I had a good friend contact me at one point because she’d rambled on for over two paragraphs of shit about me in an IM.  All she succeeded in doing was making herself look bat crazy.  She told another friend I’d become friends with him just to get at her, also told him I was a loony copybotter (does this sound like a sane person)
  • I have never had 11 alts, nor have I had an account closed or even received so much as a warning from LL.  I closed my first account Bella Posaner, because Barlett and her  friend Iota Ultsch IM’d and threatened me on an almost daily basis
  • I did snapshot a texture off a prefab I purchased from her and used it when I was learning, I had no idea it was wrong at the time
  • I was certainly inspired by her designs and admired her  as builder, it’s not a crime.  She  most certainly did not take this as a compliment, instead she IM’d and threatened me with a subpoena and then had her friend Iota Ultsch contact me.
  • Never ever have I replicated her builds prim by prim, that is an outright lie and why on earth would I use her logo, I have my own logo, my brand is reasonably established, why the hell would I use hers.  I’ve had my own group of 400+ members for the last 1.5years, they know my logo, that statement is inconceivable to me
  • I joined her RFL team, I’d freaken love to see evidence of that one, I didn’t even know she had an RFL team.  …….or was it one of my 11 alts, could be one of them.
  • Standing on her sim studying her work, talking about sim replications.  Absolute fabricated nonsense, was I using one my alts with my RL photo in it?
  • Copied two of your major releases, again absolute bullshit, I have every house I’ve ever built on my sim and not one of them is a replication of any of hers
  • Faked chat logs, I’ve never distributed any of the nasty IM’s I got from her, let alone faked them, I don’t even have any, I wish I did.
  • Her friend Iota Ultsch IM’d me and told me my computer had been hacked, REALLY, she knows full well she did? That one went to email as I was off line, I still have it.

5:28] Iota Ultsch: Hi Bella, nice to see you’re still untreated for multiple personality disorder with a penchant for copyright infringement…don’t you know you have been hacked and are the laughing stock of SL? Can’t you get some pills for your condition?

[5:31] Iota Ultsch: Everybody knows you are Kyle and Fanny Adams on the blogs – including Stroker and Tenshi…it’s been fun taking the piss out of your stupidity in IMS…can’t you do something about your mental situation? LMAO!

Iota Ultsch claims to be a RL architect, interior designer and known fashion designer apparently her SL design are copies of her RL collection from Paris and Milan……..yeah sure they are Iota ;). There’s also an interesting little post here, by Iota regarding her views on SL and RL copyright.

  • Told people my office was bugged, people, what people?. WTF, this one really baffled me, I’ve never had an office further more that claim is just really over the top, even for Bartlett, but I guess you had to make me look like a paranoid loon as well as a stalker
  • Twitter, Facebook, Plurk, according to her I already had RL details so why would I need to do this.  I have never used twitter, I have an account I have never used, I don’t even know the log in.  I have one FB account, it’s my RL FB and I would certainly never associate it with anything to do with SL , sure has hell wouldn’t want her to see it.  Plurk, more bullshit, I think I have a plurk account, it’s never been used.
  • Fake accounts on flogs and blogs, more bullshit, if that happened it sure as hell was not me, I don’t care what the IP address is and why does she have my IP address?
  • Contacting her work and personal emails, saying people are conspiring against me………..really!!! If she really got those emails ffs have them traced, they are nothing to do with me.  I don’t know where she works, what she does or who her boss is.  Furthermore, if I had all this info I’d say I was pretty darn good at tracking her down, how come I didn’t know she was sick in hospital at the time these emails were sent.  In one IM Bartlett told me that SL was her RL income, now she has a boss???  I have also assumed that as SL is her income, she was trying to protect it and remove me from the competition.
  • And the one that truly has me in stitches is the alts with my RL life pic, really, do you think if I was going to stalking her, I’d actually put my RL pic on the accounts……seriously!!! But I guess throwing that in there makes me look insane as well as obsessed stalker fan, right.
  • Rating myself on the market place…… why is she even reading my reviews on the marketplace, she’s STILL doing this, not sure if she’s still contacting people or not, if she is I apologise to customers, please mute her.  And was this my 12th alt, this review alt?
  • Last but not least, of course I know my IP address is recorded, I have managed my own blog (THIS ONE) for years, how could I not know that.

It’s worth noting that I was contacted within SL by Creativedreams Zsun who Charlotte was also threatening. This poor girl had created a plastic type chair and Charlotte felt it resembled something she’d made. She used the same threats on her has she used on me “I will pursue you publically and legally unless you remove your ban” Creativedreams had banned Charlotte (as you would) from her land, when Charlotte contacted her demanding the chair be removed. I am pretty damn sure Charlotte knows you can not copy right a chair FFS!

And here’s a list of all the shit I’ve put up with from Charlotte Bartlett since February 2009, I am no longer holding back!

Most Damning – contacted my Alt and addressed her by my real life name, told me she was filing a criminal complaint in my country of residence and that she was using Stroker Serpentines lawyer to pursue these legal procedures to prevent me from using the second life platform. She ended her IM with “it stops today”. Big threats, this woman fights dirty. Clearly I’m still here, haven’t been carted off to jail or banned from the grid.

-threatened me with public shaming and legal action over a texture I used once “I will pursue you publically and legally” (incidentally she used this line on a lot of people, seems I am not the only person she’s threatened)

-falsified and countless legal DMCA’s stating my designs were replications of hers, they were NOT and I have proof of that.  At this point she wanted my RL info. Eventually I did  ignore her threats and counter filed, after that it never happened again. Please note, you are never told who has filed the DMCA, I knew it was her because she couldn’t help rubbing my face in it and bragging about it

By the way this design is MINE, I released it on the 21st of Oct 2011, she copied my design  and released it on the 24th of Oct She then unbelievably filed DMCA against my design and 3 others. It was at this point I counter filed, she had pushed and pushed until I reached breaking point, I was not going to allow her to steal my designs on top of everything else. As you can see my design is still there. She never took any action to my counter file and ALL my work was reinstated.

-stalked my land almost daily IM’d me and threatened me every time I built something she thought resembled her style. (this was before I had a full sim and could estate ban her)

-Set up house with an alt next to my then parcel, befriended me and started to ask some weird questions that eventually gave away her identity.

-I moved,  she found me and she regularly lurked on the perimeter of my land, I’d often log on just in time to catch her disappear from radar.

-Accused me of stealing her stone texture when she realised it was NOT hers, she accused me of stealing from istock and altering it via PS, a programme I don’t nor have ever had.

-She then threatened me telling me she’d been in contact with istock lawyers regarding my “theft” and telling me I’d be hearing from them soon. Of course I never did hear from Istock

-had her friends (colecity lights) buy my products online, IM me, harass me, demand a refund and rate them badly, even making comparisons to her designs in those reviews and naming her store as better, it was pretty damn blatant.

-recorded and distributed my IP address, or what she thinks is my IP address, not sure I’ve never seen what she has. She apparently distributed my IP address to blogs and forums so I could be easily identified if I tried to post anything about her. (paranoid much charlotte)

-She attempted to get RL information about me from my ISP provider. She actually posted this in the Second Life Universe Forums, I don’t know where now. She was making one of her cryptic threats and she said “I am due information next week from an ISP provider which will allow me to make this person accountable in RL for her SL actions”.  (of course this was also a hollow threat intended to intimidate)

-sent cryptic threats via SCD (check the fourth post) this was just after Charlotte blatantly purchased a bed from my MP store under her main acc.

-left horrible comments on this blog

-Had her friends threaten me and tell me my computer was hacked and “didn’t I know I was being tracked”

-She has contacted owners of groups I belonged to and told them I was a copybotter to get me booted out

-She has contacted people who rated my products on the market place and on my flickr and slandered me, telling them I’m a theif, suggesting they shouldn’t buy from me

-I had one customer contact me very upset because Charlotte had contacted her, told her I was a thief, told her I had copied her work and told her that if she used the design she purchased from me she could have legal problems.  She told the customer court proceeding were going to occur and implied she could be involved in the court case. Can you imagine how hard it was for me to deal with that, fortunately this customer wasn’t a fool and was not intimidated by Charlottes threats.

-She rambled on for over two paragraphs to one of my friends he barely got a word in.  She contacted another friend of mine convinced we’d become friends to get at her and told him her wild stories of copybotting and stalking. Of course this was her living through her hell privately. As it turns out this person turned her down on a business proposal and she didn’t like it. She then tried to turn him against me, you will know him he is a very very well known designer for SL.

-spread lies that my accounts had been banned because I was a copybotter, I have never been banned or received so much as a warning from LL and I have certainly never used a copybot client.

-most damningly of all and most recently, found out the name of my alt and broadcast it in a notice to her group.  What’s most interesting is that I am the ONLY person who knew who my alt was…..me and LL.  She IM’d my alt and told me ‘she was told this was my account’.  I find it concerning that she clearly has affiliations with Linden Lab who pass her this information.  It has long been surmised in certain circles that she has Linden moles, but this confirms it. I hope the source has covered tracks, that has to be a sackable offence

-Contacted my alt and called her by my first life real name, that’s creepy

-Threatened me saying she had contacted the police regarding me stalking her, told my friends she was logging their conversations and they’d be added to the said police reports

-Used my business name in her search terms (I took snapshots), not criminal but certainly bloody unethical.

-She has been posting subtle and no so subtle posts aimed at me on SLU since 2009 regarding police reports and hinting that I will be banned from SL ( I’ve never been banned)

-Signed up to alternative grids using my name ‘Elle Crescendo’, fortunately the owners of the grid were incredibly helpful and turned my name back over to me.

-She tried to Impersonate someone called Bailey on SCD, she accused me of being Bailey here   when she said “You post as Baily on SCD right? Or is that a figment of all our imagination. Not long after that this comment popped up on SCD comments go down to the 5th comment posted by Bailey.

*I wonder who the “our” are in “all our imaginations” is it the collective voices  in her head or is it her and friends gathering around the cauldron for another witch hunt

A while ago Bartlett did one of those ”I’m leaving SL”  threads  and made an exit from the grid with the usual drama of someone who announces they’re leaving but really have no intention of doing so.  She made a big deal about how her items would be sold on the market place and the proceeds would fund a non-profit sim for artists, this would be out of the goodness of her heart and it would be free.  As far as I know this never happened and soon she was back selling commercially. She reopened her store and within weeks of doing so, she filed DMCA notices on 4 of my designs. I whole heartily believe that Bartlett is trying to ruin my business, eventually the lab will ban you if you they perceive you are breaching copyrights regularly.

It’s also important to note that when first started out I was selling my homes for around 850L at the time she was selling hers for 20,000L and more (no that’s not an extra zero). She believed I was deliberately selling my houses cheap, I was not, I was learning to build, I genuinely just wanted people to like them, I had no interest in making much money.  But she did, in one IM she said “I know SL is a game to you, but to me it’s my RL source of income”

Since this post, Bartlett IM’d my alt inworld and called her by my  first life real name, she advised me she had engaged Stroker Serpentines lawyer and she was filing a criminal complaint against me, she said her lawyer would be requesting the lab restrict my SL usage for abusing the TOS. Nothing ever came of that, just another threat and attempt at intimation. (2011)

That’s mostly it from my perspective.  Charlote does what she does in the background, she’s very calculated and she’s very manipulative, she’s also very clever and from the outsiders perspective, butter wouldn’t melt. I felt it was fair enough to defend myself this time, as this has  been going on for a very very long time, I’ve tried to ignore, kept quiet, hoped she’d go away.  If she thought I was going to keep quiet this time………… she’d better think again! She is a liar and a bully and I will not be silenced by intimation any longer.

Some interesting links I found about her

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/14586-replicating-prims-second-life-ethical.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojoruno/4374500253/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurmoo/3965488006/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pradprathivi/2585295697/  This one is a great insight to just how prissy Charlotte really is, this is really quiet ridiculous and what a fuss over nothing, a few copied doors on a temporary design.

Modavia Productions: She made a public fuss at last years Fashion Week, when she said Modavia Productions had breached her copyrights. She built their set for fashion week and they copied a shutter window, she posted a rant to flickr, Saying they had copied unique designs of hers she uses for her commercial portfolio, she said this breached her copyright and that this was the second time she’d had issue with this company.  She said they had declined to pay for the licence which would have allowed them to copy the builds they bought from her. She withdrew the rights for them to use ALL her builds until they made a public apology to her, disrupting the entire show.

and this, seems bartlett has caused issues for others too, surprised I don’t get the credit for this

http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/scarlet-creative-sims-closingclosed/

Here in the comments, someone named Choo Qinanv had an issue with bartlett, seems it was over another chair that bartlett thinks no one but her can build, she’s accused Choo of hiring copybotters to steal her textures and designs.  The builder went on to demonstrate on youtube how simple the chair was make in blender. This goes way back to 2008, so she’s been doing this a long time.

http://brettfinsbury.wordpress.com/sevan-stolen-items/

Following here is a rather nasty comment right at the bottom of the page, long before my time, demonstrating that there is more than 1 person who has had issue with this individual.

http://customersagainsttheftsandsupporters.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/the-evolution-of-content-theft/

So come to your own conclusions, I’ve dealt with this long enough and it was time I documented my side instead of taking this lying down and letting her get away with it.


I Give Up

Do what you want, say what you want, you are possibly the most manipulative person I believe I have ever come across, you are incredibly devious.   Your constant public attacks directed at me, deviously playing the smypathy card, to me you are utterly transparent.  

You drove me to stoop to your level, I won’t allow you that anymore, I can not compete with you on that.  But, you will not  intimidate me into submission anymore. So knock yourself out!

You really are an obsessed lunatic, when will you get this straight, I don’t know who you are in RL, who you work for or what you do, I never in my life made a single tweet or sent you a single email, not ever. I could not care less who you are, it’s not flattering that you direct almost every post you make at me,  it’s obsessive and you need some help, you are really really sick. Google cache to your hearts content, I don’t care about that either. BTW, you not the only one with records and evidence, I too have records of your threats, your friends threats, your cryptic SCD messages and your nasty posts……..google cache is my friend too!


Zero Tolerance of Second Life Harassment

This post is primarily in reference to cyber stalking on the Secondlife platform.  If you’ve ever been the victim of a stalker in Second Life you’ll be able to relate to this post.  Being cyber stalked is a very unpleasant experience and one I had to endure for the best part of 3years.  My stalker was/is particularly viscous and she had a malicious agenda which involved harassment and bullying.  Unfortunately I had no idea how to handle the situation, I was intimated, my stalker is well known in the SL community, she’s an SLDEV, a Mole and Service Solution Provider as well as a prefab builder, as am I. Her objective was to remove her competition from the market by using intimidation tactics, her clique of cool kids and her lab afiliations to identify my alternative account.

My stalker became particually frightening, tracking down alt accounts, even contacting an alternative account and addressing her by my REAL LIFE first name, yes they can get that creepy. Fortunatly I would think most don’t have the access to Lab authorities that my stalker has.

Some stalkers are just plain annoying, others are intrusive and some are completely obsessive, depending on their objective.  The very nature of cyber stalkering makes it a grey area, a stalker can remain anonymous even undetected.   Particularly with a platform like Second Life where the stalker can simply create an alternative account.  My stalker recorded my IP address (which is against TOS and AR’able not to mention a banable offence) to track me and find out personal information about me.  She’s attempted to hack my computer(I have evidence of this), she’s even tried to contact my ISP provider and obtain my RL address, fortunately privacy of individuals here is closely guarded and she got nothing from them.

Some stalkers will go to extraordinary lengths to obtain information about you, for example, mine falsified DMCA take down notices to obtain my real life address, incredibly frightening stuff.  If a DMCA is filed against you, you have the right to counter file, but bear in mind the other person will obtain your real life identify and that includes your address.

Some people will advise you to speak with your local police authority, personally unless your stalker has threatened you and there is a physical risk to your safety, I feel there is very little point.  It is difficult to get assistance with real life stalkers let alone Second Life stalkers, so I’m not to confident about the chances of the police taking you seriously.  It is my opinion and mine alone, that the police will have little interest and possibly no influence as it is a civil matter.  Unless the stalker has tracked you into your real life and has made very real threats there is little they can do.  Unless the stalker lives in the same city or country as you do, it’s unlikely they pose any actual physical threat to you.  There is also the issue of jurisdiction and international boundaries, I live in New Zealand, my stalker lives in London, UK , there is little the police can do.  In extremely severe cases, the police may inform their foreign counterparts and they could be issued with a warning or restraining order in accordance to their own local law.

I have also heard people say you could contact your Stalkers ISP Provider, I can tell you that where I live, this would be entirely futile.  Where I live the privacy laws of individuals are extremely strict and my ISP provider would not release any information at all.  Nothing short of a court ruling would enable this to happen and it would have to be with very good reason. I am not ruling this out in other parts of the world, I am not familiar with the laws surrounding this in other countries and it may be worth pursuing depending on which part of the world you live in.

Having said that, I’d like to be clear that if there is danger and the stalker does have access to you in real life and you fear violence could be used against you, then do not hesitate to contact your local police.

The biggest mistake I made was to keep what was happening to me, to myself.  I let my stalker intimate me to the point where I left second life.  I deactivated my account, left all my inventory behind, and disappeared.  I don’t want this to happen to anyone else; I don’t want anyone to feel helpless in this situation.  There are steps you can take and I hope this is of some assistance to you.

 So what can you do;

Updated To Add:

Important, make sure you turn off media on your viewer and do not accept cookies.  My stalker uses a loop hole in the system to obtain IP addresses and personal information, she has harvested IP address of anyone who lands on her sim, she’s been using this since long before Redzone and RZ does not give users your IP address, it never has, even before the updated TOS.  So be careful out there, turn off your media, if you have a serious stalker they can track you this way. Options for this are found in preferences,  Control P on our keyboard.

  •  If someone is harassing you, your first step must be to AR them immediately, keep logs of IM’s and include them in your AR
  • If you own land ban them
  • Mute them immediately, do not respond to them under any circumstances.  Instruct your friends to ignore and mute if necessary
  • Log everything, emails and IM’s, take screen shots and keep evidence
  • If they send friends or alts to harass you, AR them and mute them too.
  • Talk about it, get some support from your friends. Make sure your support network knows you are dealing with this
  • Unfortunately you have to hide your groups, particularly any open registration groups.  Stalkers use these as a means of keeping track of your on line movements or to annoy you in group IM’s
  • If you blog, blog about it, let it be known, name the offenders, as long as this is outside the SL platform you are perfectly within your rights to do this.
  • If they are directing comments at you on forums, leave the forums, don’t read them and never ever respond to them
  • Give very little information about your real life to ANYONE in secondlife.  Don’t discuss your real life job, where you live, your real life name, even the names of your pets.  Seemingly innocent information can be enough to give a serious stalker a lead.
  • There are several anti stalker groups inworld you could join for support
  • Finally, if necessary you may wish to seek some legal advice regarding the laws on cyber stalking pertaining to your country

Unfortunately the steps you need to take to deter your stalker are unfair, why should you have to hide your groups and leave forums.  Because any response or opportunity you give them simply fuels their obsession, it’s about not giving them opportunity and making stalking you a boring pass time.  It’s sad but true and eventually the stalker will tire of you and move on, possibly and sadly to their next victim!

Sometimes there is consequence to the actions you take against a particularly obsessed or paranoid stalker.  I have ignored mine for the last 2 years, unfortunately she has now resorted to slandering me, she contacts people who post on my flicker page and people who review my products on the market place.  She has even convinced herself that I have befriended certain people to get closer to her. She believes that I know her in RL, she believes I have contacted her and her boss.  Her allegations are serious and could get her into a fair amount of legal trouble should I chose to pursue that avenue.  There is not much you can do about someone who is so utterly deluded & clearly in need of help.   I still maintain ignoring her and AR’ing her is the best stance I can take.


Second Life Bullies

By Elle Crescendo

For as long as you continue to spread your vial lies in public, this post remains!

SL has it’s fair share of bullies and you’d be very surprised who they are. I am going to blog about my own experience which is ongoing to this day, I will post a few links etc and you will come to you own conclusions. I have endured this for a very long time and despite various threats I am not taking this post down.  There is a certain irony to this because the people responsible for the bullying and harassment you will read about here, are the very people who recently did the Declaration of Human Rights expo within SL. I have had relentless harassment and threats from this individual and her friends.

I have NEVER initiated any of the circumstances you will read about below, I have only ever IM’d her once and not without provocation.  A little back ground on her – she’s a well known SL prefab designer and she’s a reputable builder, I’m not, she knows and plays with Lindens, partakes in group discussions with them, moles for them, I don’t, nor do I care to.

This is ongoing (As at February 2009), she will tell you I have been stalking her. She has spread lies about me, made very serious allegations about RL stalking etc (links will follow), threatened me, and she has been utterly relentless in her witch hunt, she is calculating, cold and manipulative in the extreme.

This is all because when I first began designing prefabs, I was influenced by her style.  She claims I replicated her designs (further on I will post a links to so called replicated designs).  I was once a customer of hers, a good customer, I bought at least 5 of her prefabs, at the time they were around $50USD (no  that’s not a typo) each and no modify. I got sick of paying for something I couldn’t change and make my own. So, I started to learn to build. I loved her prefabs, so at first I was inspired to create houses in a similar style, to the best of my knowledge that isn’t a crime. I shot 2 textures from my own prefabs, bought from her sim and used the texture shots on my build. Hey I considered it was mine, I owned it and I can do what the hell I want with it, right? Wrong. I had no idea it was wrong and I wasn’t selling it, I was learning, I had no idea I couldn’t snapshot a texture and use it on a build, I can do it in RL why not in SL, but I learnt from that believe me. So, this is where it all started and she got very nasty. She contacted me regarding the offending texture, apparently, “someone” (I did read a comment of hers where she said she uses some kind of imbedded digital watermark to track her textures just in case someone tries to use them) had informed her I was building a house using her texture, I removed the texture apologised and never used it again.   But from that moment on she kept an eye on me and my designs and the harassment has been endless.

The second occasion she contacted me, I had moved to a more prim friendly sim and was building a house. She  IM’d me demanding to know where I’d got my current texture from, threatening me with DMCA and telling me I had 24hrs to remove it (I didn’t even know what that meant). I’m paraphrasing but, she told me it was a legal procedure where she would get my RL information and use it to prosecute me in RL court, she was vicious and nasty. She kicked me out of her group, banned me from her sim and announced to her group that I was thief. The texture was not hers, she demanded a copy of the licence I held for the texture. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you she had absolutely no right to make such demands and I was in no way obligated to show her anything. In those days she often made such announcements within her group, she would name and shame anyone she thought was copying her. I remember someone telling her not to do it because people would TP there for a look and some people bought them because they didn’t cost the $50USD she charged.

Next was a barrage of nasty IM’s from her, she accused me of stealing from IStock she said “are you so stupid you used Istock textures and photo shopped off their logo”. She was now talking about my wood flooring, it wasn’t IStocks, but even if it was, I could have bought it, what’s with the nasty accusations. She told me she’d contacted Istock lawyers about my theft and they would be in touch with me shortly.  She also said she’d name me publicly and brand me as a thief, ensuring my reputation would be jeopardized (a threat she has certainly followed through with), she told me I should be ashamed, said I can’t go stealing IP from every Tom Dick and Harry (her words). I was terrified, I was new to all this, I had no idea what to do, I believed everything she said, she was a reputable creator, I was no one. I left the texture on the build where it was, I had nothing to hide and oddly enough, I never did hear from IStocks Lawyers. And oddly enough there never was a DMCA from her regarding the stone texture I still use today. I don’t and never have owned a copy of photoshop, nor have I ever used or bought an IStocks texture.

From there I continued to learn to build and develop my skills, until I felt my builds were good enough to sell. I then bought half a sim and laid my houses out. Within 3 days of opening my store I received a nasty IM from this designer, it said something like “nice job copying my metro house and the Miami you might be interested in this” “This” was a link to her blog, where she’d named me, called me a thief, said I’d copied her houses, accused me of copying her furniture and stealing textures, she even claimed I was still using her textures. How odd that she thought I was still using her textures, yet she didn’t file a DMCA. Anyone who knows her can tell you she will not hesitate to file, so what she wrote was nothing more than lies. I don’t like to be nasty about other peoples designs, but frankly I’ve always thought her furniture was hideous and I’d never be interested in copying it.  Not to mention you can’t copyright furniture.

But here’s what I find particularly interesting about her blog post, she actually wrote that my designs were not enough like hers to be a copyright violation/infringement. (About six months later she contradicted herself and decided they were a violation and filed DMCA take downs on my most popular items on xstreet, more about that later.)  If she was unable to sue me for copyright infringement or get a DMCA take down, I had to wonder why her nasty blog entry was at all news worthy, it wasn’t, it was just calculated harassment and threatening. Inspired works are not illegal works, but she implied I was evil and immoral for being inspired by her. She seemed particularly concerned with my colour pallet, saying I’d copied hers (which is white btw), I’m not sure you can you copyright a colour pallet. I wrote a retaliation blog, stated the facts and to my surprise she deleted her nasty blog almost instantly. I decided to let sleeping dogs lie and deleted mine too, I thought that was the end of it, I’ve never been so wrong in my life.

Incidentally, this woman has been banging on throughout various forums, flickr and her own blog since 2006 about her copyright and how her designs are a registered brand, she used to stamp each and every prim with “copyright of xxx xxx” she even had giant signs erected all around her sims warning customers about theft of her copyrighted goods. Yet, her copyright was only registered in 2012, Copyright is a matter of public record.  That says to me this woman is more than capable of making shit up and screaming it from the roof tops, she’s a liar.

A couple of weeks go by and at this stage I’m feeling edgy when I’m online, almost afraid she’s going to IM me again. And of course she does, an IM that goes something like this “ I fail to understand why you insist on rezzing my structures and making knock offs of them” Something like that or to that effect. What’s interesting is I did have one of her boxes out, containing one of her rezzers on my private property, most builders look at and pull apart other peoples builds to learn how things work and I still admired her builds and liked them. So therefore;

1/ she was stalking around my land and saw a rezzer of one of her houses, otherwise how could she have known what I was doing ( I can rez any damn thing I like on my land, I sure as hell don’t need permission from the likes of her) and

2/ she’s been watching my build, which was nowhere near finished, so it was a bit presumptuous to call it a knock off. Um again, I’M THE STALKER, how ironic.

I am not a confrontational person, at all, nor do I have a single competitive bone in my body. I didn’t know a lot of people in SL and now every time I got an IM I jumped, I was frightened and unsure, I felt I had to watch my back. It was becoming clear she wanted me to leave and she wasn’t giving up.  So I tried to call a truce (even though I hadn’t done anything wrong, I needed this to stop) I said I would no longer make anything that was inspired by her builds. She accepts my truce, she also told me she makes her RL living from SL, told me how my blog hurt her and could hurt her business because I said she flirts with Lindens.  After everything that’s transpired I found it difficult to feel any sympathy at this stage, but regardless I apologised for hurting her.

A couple of weeks later, I log into SL,  I get a message from my Mystitool, telling me she’s within 15meters, she’s on the boundary of my parcel, because of course she’s banned from my land. The moment she sees me she vanishes.  I wanted to know what was she doing there, so I IM’d her. Quite inadvertently I had set up a dinning suite for sale and in the pic one of her rugs had been staged under a table. She wanted me to remove it stating I did not have a licence to use her rug in any commercial photo’s. So clearly she had been very diligently watching my marketplace as well as visiting in person. Yes the rug thing is pretty pathetic, but that was her excuse for hanging around my land.  So I removed that pic and was polite to her, all in the name of the truce, even though I considered it to be petty and pathetic. I very much doubt there was even anything she could have done about it. In fairness she does state in her TOS that you are never allowed to use her stuff in any commercial shots without a license from her to do so.

It is important to note, further on you will read how she filed DMCA on my most popular selling houses (Nov 2009). The above incident happened about 6months prior, the same houses were on xstreet at that time the same house with the pic of the rug and she did NOT file a take down on them, 6 months prior, why? 6 months later she claims they are replicas of her builds? She has seen them both inworld and on the marketplace.  There have been pics of those houses on my flickr page, my SL profile and my SLU profile (which she has viewed) for a long time, she has never before accused them of being a replica of her houses until one week ago. Why, because I won’t quit SL!

Next, she now decides to change tactics, I log into SL, I get an IM from a customer, who has purchased my house and isn’t happy with it, his name is Cole Citylights (old account, no details in profile), Cole is demanding his money back, he says there’s a seam in the back of the house that is over lapping and he’s not happy about it. Now I know that an account from 2006 can fix a seam in a second, but he wants his linden back. I check the house and tell him he’s quite correct, I’ll be happy to repair it and send him a new copy as the item is no transfer. But Cole doesn’t want a new copy, Cole is nasty and responds with “I doubt you’re capable of fixing it” he wants his money back, he says he has a friend with him and his friend says the house looks similar to said designers ’s houses (how amazing and what a coincidence), he says he has IM’d her to let her know.  So how come she didn’t DMCA my house back then, when this concerned resident told her I was stealing her intellectual property? Cole then goes on about copyright infringement and tells me he doesn’t approve of thieves and demands his money back.  When I ask him exactly what is similar to hers he responds with the “fireplace is similar and has a similar texture” (someone needs to tell these idiots you cant copyright a fireplace or any furniture and similar is not a crime).

At this point now  I’ve had enough, I’m afraid to log on and find out what the next instalment will be, what the next IM from her is going to be and now this. I give Cole his money back. He then asks permission to blog my conversation, I told him to do what he felt he must do, his response, “it’s always nice to ask” and then tells me “you have a nice day now”.  There never was a blog post that I was able to find, it was just another scare tactic. I knew from the moment he IM’d me that this was a set up, most people who buy an item they like, want to keep it and are happy to have it replaced. I also knew without doubt who was behind it.  He then wrote a nasty review on my xstreet, compared my house with her work (naming her business) and said he’d used his refund to buy one of hers and it was much better quality than mine. It read like an ad for her business.

Finally after all this, I hit the mute button.

But things don’t end here, her friend starts to IM, she seems very kind and really concerned, she tells me she wants us ‘both to be the fabulous women she knows we can be’ and that this nonsense must end, she said it’s cruel and she wants both of us to stop. I want this to stop, by now I’m at my wits end, it’s upsetting and I’ve had enough, I’m terrified of this woman. But it doesn’t end, it gets worse the friend turns nasty, she makes a lot of nasty threats, accusing me of stalking this designer in RL, she said “you went to far when you took it to facebook” she said I was perverse and I had no idea what the hell she is talking about, I don’t know who the designer is in RL, I don’t know her name or anything about her. This friend also tells me I’m going to be subpoenaed through LL and tells me they are processing a cease and desist, I don’t know what that means and when I ask her, she says “I have no idea what happens when they start that kind of legal shit, but it’s very serious for you”.  She tells  me I must leave this designer  alone and to back off now,  accusing me of stalking her in RL  The friend goes on to tell me that people are tracking me, they know every move I make, so I should just give up. I’m sorry, what “tracking me”, who is stalking who here, her words “there are people who are tracking you now” hmmm, that does sound a lot like stalking and it’s certainly not me doing it. This same  friend told me they had hacked my computer, something they now deny, what they maybe didn’t know was that my IM’s go to email, I was offline at the time she IM’d regarding the hacking, I will post that IM below.

This friend contacted me several times, getting nastier each time. She contacted a friend of mine in SL and told him to warn me that I’m in deep trouble with the law if I don’t back off.  But prior to getting nasty, the friend handed me a gift, it was a hanging chime, she told me it was from her shop, she told me to hang it in my house.  In retrospect I suspect it may have had tracking scripts in it, I have been to the friends store, she doesn’t sell chimes she sells very overpriced dresses and claims to be a RL acclaimed architect and clothes designer for very high end well known magazines such as vogue………yeah ok sure you are, I mean all the designer is SL are aren’t they?

After the nasty encounter with the friend, I did leave SL for a period, I closed my account  (Bella Posaner), they had completely ruined the SL life experience for me, I was too on edge to get any enjoyment out of it..  I took a step back, I let things settle, I tried to move on and forget about it and I thought they might too. I then created a new account and started from scratch, I wanted peace, I didn’t want them to know who I was, I didn’t deserve any of this, I don’t do confrontation and they were not going to leave me alone, they were getting off on this and having fun at my expense. I bought all my textures again, building materials etc, I could have simply transferred them from my old account but, I am not a thief. I rebuilt my houses and put them back on xstreet.  For a very short time it was peaceful, but not for long, I guess she was looking out for my designs, one day I logged into xstreet to check sales and find one of my products had been purchased by none other than said designer. Yup, she recognised my designs and bought one, a bed. I assume to give it a poor rating, or to let me know, she knew who I was, she was playing games with me. Also around that time I noticed she’d joined one of my groups I assume to track my online movements, she had directed a couple of comments at me. Not long after she bought my bed there was this post in SL Secrets SCD (see below) So it started all over again, the nasty IM’s and accusations,  after the SCD post came an IM from that friend I have removed her name;

5:28] xxxxxx: Hi Bella, nice to see you’re still untreated for multiple personality disorder with a penchant for copyright infringement…don’t you know you have been hacked and are the laughing stock of SL? Can’t you get some pills for your condition?

[5:31] xxxxx: Everybody knows you are Kyle and FannyAdams on the blogs – including Stroker and Tenshi…it’s been fun taking the piss out of your stupidity in IMS…can’t you do something about your mental situation? LMAO!

She’s calling me Bella, contacting me on my new account (elle crescendo) so she’s making it clear they know who I am. Tenshi I sort of know, I’m in her Artists Voice Group, I have no clue why Stroker would have any interest in who I am, until his recent court case, I had no idea who he was. But there you go, by their own admission, they have hacked my computer and bad mouthed me around the community. There is only one forum I post to and that’s SLU, under the name Shelly.

The SCD post just after she bought my bed from xstreet.  She also posted in SLU how much she loves cats eyes and enjoys drawing them.

slsecreteyes

The next thing I receive is a DMCA take down for my houses (Nov 2009), there is absolutely no validity to substantiate this DMCA, it is entirely false. Why wasn’t it filed at least 6-7months she knew my builds,  she was obviously trolling my xstreet ads, she harassed me about them. I could counter, but something tells me these people want my RL info and I’m not comfortable giving  it to them. I’m essentially an SL hobbyist, I have zero interest in being in any real sort of SL business, I have a real job, earn real money, I have no need to earn income from SL, if they do, that isn’t my problem

Here are the houses she DMCA’d http://www.flickr.com/photos/37486754@N04/

This is my old flickr photostream, in the inspired works set are the houses that she had taken down I have labelled them house 1, house 2, house 3. House 3 was only uploaded today as I haven’t used flicker in a while, but you get the idea. These houses were designed by me in May 2009 uploaded to flickr in June. Go and take a look if you feel inclined, you will see the source of inspiration if you know her builds, you will also see mine are not replications. The upload date is prolly around a month after build completion

Following is a link to a thread started by the designer gloating about the DMCA takedown, this is an SLU forum, it was tactically placed there, because that’s where I post. She actually claims I ripped her houses, she also claims my builds were shocking, she claims I replicated her houses.  Inspired sure, ripped definitely not, shocking built, not at all!  This is the first DMCA takedown I have ever received, this is the 2nd account I have owned to sell with on xstreet. I have not been banned or ever even received so much as a warning from LL

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/36930-dmca-xstreetsl-getting-better.html

(what’s interesting about the above post, is she says my accounts have not been banned, recently she’s taken to telling people that I’ve been banned previously from SL, more lies)

I have never once copied her houses, I was certainly inspired by them, and that is what this is all about, competition. If you truly believe in your product, there is no need to eliminate possible competition in this way.

This woman is a liar, a bully and worse, she’s a fake, this is her vendetta. It’s very sad that people held in high regard are able to get away with this sort of behavior, but that’s the way it goes. I believe in karma and she will get hers in some way, at some time. “How people treat you is their Karma, how you react is yours”. She contacted a customer of mine who posted a review on xstreet and she slandered me, telling him I steel copyright and IP, she told the customer they could get involved in serious legal issues if they kept my work out. She also contacted a good friend who posted a comment on my flicker page about a new design.  She even told him the only reason I was friends with him was to get at her. Interestingly enough, she herself had defriended him, long ago he refused her offer to work for her, recently contacting him to bad mouth and slander me. He is a very well known SL designer and one you would know. Once he got big she tried to reclaim his friendship. His words to me re: her “she’s as cold as ice”.

Of interest I did some stalking myself, I found this designer is involved in a few dramas one even involved the police. You will not read about me anywhere, you won’t find me involved in drama, conflict or controversy. What you think of me is not my business, there are two sides to every story but reputable people are not always good people.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pradprathivi/2585295697/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojoruno/4374500253/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nurmoo/3965488006/

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/14586-replicating-prims-second-life-ethical.html

UPDATE

Thanks to this blog I recently had contact with an AV who has also been threatened by this same designer.  She showed me IM’s where she was told, “if you ban me, I will pursue you, legally and publically” she was terrified. That was over a plastic chair design, one which was similar to the designers.  You can not copyright furniture and I know she knows this; it seems she makes a habit of threatening people.

Another Update 13 July 2011

Unbelievably this is still going on;

13th July 2011.  After attacking me out of the blue on a public forum several times, to no avail and to her detriment. I received yet another DMCA notification, this time on 4 designs she believes infringe her copyright.  Again, I can’t counter, I can’t risk my personal information in the hands of this woman.  In her posts she continues with her threats, stating she has consulted a lawyer and will pursue if the designs are not removed.  Instead of countering, I take the designs down, resign from that particular forum (which I enjoyed being part of).  She even did her best to derail my goodbye thread.  She claims in the post below that I got her RL info from her previous DMCA, anyone who knows anything about the DMCA process knows that you DO NOT get any information, you are not even told who has filed DMCA’s even if you counter file there is STILL no information provided to you about who has filed. I assume if it gets as far as court proceedings you have to be notified then. As crazy as it seems believe me it’s true and that is why it is so easy for the DMCA process to be abused.

Her attack http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/61224-screw-copy-botters-3.html#post1310823

In the following thread comes another threat. Even the moderator took to removing parts of her post as it was obvious she was becoming more and more vicious.  If you read this post it also looks seriously like a threat regarding counterfiling her DMCA, she using examples of someone else who countered filed and she got them banned.

In a last minute bid to redeem herself she says she wishes me no harm (kind of a strange work to use).  She has done nothing but harm to me, she has hurt my reputation, had my work removed, harassed me endlessly, which has caused me emotion anguish  and distress, she has intimated me and at times completely destroyed the SL experience for me. To this day I feel anxious every time I release a new product, concerned that she will somehow perceive that some element of the design is similar to something of hers and this will all start over again.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/virtual-business/61796-seeing-believing-copybot-again-2.html#post1322942

Following is my thread to say goodbye, she cant’ resist putting the boot in yet again, only it doesn’t go so well for her, as people start to see her for the bully she really is.  http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/61941-good-bye-slu-2.html#post1323873

Here’s another thread she started, directed at me, threatening me with loss of account, she thinks I flagged her marketplace items, 9 months later she is in a thread saying “I fell afoul” and saying her houses were flagged because she put them in the wrong category.  She also had items removed by Linden Lab because she was word spamming. It’s yet another example of her threats and false allegations.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/50988-um-thanks-marketplace.html

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/62196-need-vent-market-place-flagging.html

So you can see why I left the forum, those are just a few examples.  There are more screen shots of her criptic SCD threats and her nastyness on various forms of media. I will not leave SL again, I will not allow her to deter me, she has only succeeded in making me more determined than ever.  Her accusations about RL stalking are entirely false, I don’t understand them at all, She claims my alts had my RL photo’s of me, I just can’t understand this.  I can not decide if she’s batshit crazy or if someone has used us both, someone who clearly has it in for her. Either way someone doesn’t like her, I’m surprised I didn’t get credit for this one too

http://shoppingcartdisco.com/gossip/scarlet-creative-sims-closingclosed/